I comment often on the trends against our elites, especially the Israeli-Neocons in their quest to strangle Freedom around the world and here at home. Another aspect just struck me, what I consider good evidence for the growth of citizen government, not just citizen journalism.
The article is by Robert Parry, is quite long, and discusses at length the evidence that the Dutch investigators are doing their best to allow the sands of time to run out before allowing anyone to decide anything about any fact whatsoever.
As I read that, I started wondering. The Ukraine was the first time the US’s State Departments claims were so obviously un-hinged from reality, we blamed Russia in the strongest terms from the first moments and Kerry claimed the strongest possible evidence. Obviously we didn’t have any of the evidence for what we claimed, we never produced any of it. And a most suspicious thing was lowering the flight path’s altitude, but I never saw an expert’s opinion on that. But I had always thought, suspicious mind tho I am, that it was either an attempt on Putin’s plane that supposedly had a flight 100 miles away or so at barely close enough times to be plausible, inclusive-or some dumb mistake. Later I read Putin’s plane was never on such a flight path.
But reading Parry’s story, you have to start asking whose benefit was it to blame Russia? Which was the US line from the first word.
And then you read this comment, in the list of 88 when I looked, and see that MSM is many steps behind the people digging through the evidence, analyzing and collating it. I am very impressed with this comment stream, a new measure of a good investigative journalist is he quality of the comments he attracts. Many people commenting on Robert Parry’s article are careful, have the evidence at their fingertips and put it in context, many contexts, in fact. Evidence for the US trying to frame Russia, evidence for the right sector doing another false flag, … Lots of ‘what does this mean about our country and leaders?’
This stuff filters up into mainstream journalism, when mainstream journalism lets it.
Reading comments, I recognized Liam’s name on this quite serious journalist’s site. Given my leaky memory, it means his comments had caught my eye on more than one occasion, because while I read all of Parry’s articles, less often the comments, Parry doesn’t publish that often. So, a person can have an international reputation for making good comments :
This web site is clearly frequented by people who follow the evidence, all the evidence, in great detail, with careful attention to all the alternatives. And debate interpretations in very reasoned discourse from many points of view, having viewed and experienced such events around the world and studied previous such cases.
The thing that jumps out in these discussions, and they happen in many sites for many posts, is the interpretations of the evidence : Nobody shuts down all of the radars in a country at the same time, therefore the Ukraine’s excuse that radars were down for maintenance cannot be true, and therefore the Ukraine is hiding evidence. That is the kind of thing you can’t get in a news article, the best they can say is “Authorities claimed extraordinary reasons for all of the radars in the country being down at the same time, including urgent scheduled maintenance”, the very high probability of a coverup of evidence against their cases being diffused as a result.
Many points of view, reflections on many other things, a good list of concerns of people in the world. The other interesting point is suggestions for what can be done now, what needs done now. On a ZH thread today, I saw the beginning of dialogue between Muslims of a western bent of mind and the rational of the western world.
And look at Boiling Frog Post. That is more of the same brand of investigative journalism and is also attracting knowledgable commenters. Both BFP and ConsortiumNews are keeping issues alive far after the time that MSM has dropped them, none can fail to be outraged, and thus their cumulative political impact continue to grow, our Status Quo and MSM lose our trust.
So we citizens are practicing the investigation of our world, deciding on alternative fixes, and negotiating solutions. What governments are so bad at for the fundamental reason that failures in those processes fund them.
One of the large trends in the business world is known as ‘disintermediation’, meaning a direct peer-to-peer connection between parties to a transaction, e.g. borrower and lenders who compose the consortium making the loan, no need for a banker in the middle. The connections between people and topics and lead investigators are being formed now, the web’s denizens will yet disintermediate our governments, a process of the evolution of government toward benign parasitism in the face of social and economic resistance to its incalulable waste of our lives and wealth.
Added later, the inevitable link I accidentally find that lends weight, substance and validity to my thesis that net denizens are both taking over government at all levels and very qualified to do so.
This is Bernie’s team on organizing with modern apps. Explain why we need government?